How Are Some of the Most Accomplished Writers and Poets Coping with the Digital Revolution?

This blog posts on Mondays. Fourth Mondays of the month I devote to a Q & A with a fellow writer.

I am not the only one coming to the conclusion, after many years of enthusiastic embrace, that the digital revolution has been a Faustian deal. This month’s “Q & A” is not with one writer but a reprise of a question I have posed to many writers over the past few years, as part of this blog’s fourth Monday Q & A: How have you been coping with the digital revolution? Herewith a wide-ranging selection of their answers. May you find them as thought-provoking as I did.

KATHERINE DUNN: I have an iPhone that I use mainly for photos…but I’m not attached to it like many people. I have learned to sit down, and state in my head what I need to do, i.e., “I need to get this canvas started and work on it for one hour.”

Simple tiny steps of work. I find I actually get a lot done in a shorter amount of time than when I was younger.

I also do not feel compelled to be in the studio all the time. I’m 62, maybe that is part of it–I have less enthusiasm for other people’s presence. 

I think if most people just tried [turning] off notifications on their iPhones it would help! I see some people unable to have a 5 minute conversation without getting interrupted.

I’ve learned to get on and off social media. I deleted 5000 “friends” on Facebook and kept 100 of people I really knew. I never post on it. I only maintain my Apifera Farm nonprofit page. I don’t comment hardly ever on anything of FB. I decided it was a drain and that I was basically entertaining the masses with free photos, stories and more, and was not seeing a return. The nonprofit still can bring in donations through FB. Instagram is eye candy, I use it as a marketing tool for my non profit, and post art when I have it to show.

But that’s it. I don’t interact on it, except to see a baby photo or something of real friends.
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From Q & A with Katherine Dunn on White Dog and Writing in the Digital Revolution, Madam Mayo blog, July 27, 2020

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JOANNA HERSHON: I imagine that, like most people, I’m more distracted with social media, texting and email but I still do feel like when I’m writing… I’m writing, just like I always did before the internet existed. Part of what I love and crave about writing fiction is that it’s a process that feels timeless and part of my essential self.
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From Q & A with Joanna Hershon on Her New Novel St. Ivo, Madam Mayo blog, March 23, 2020

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BARBARA CROOKER: …I resisted using social media for a long time once we got a high speed connection, fearing it would be a time suck (it is!). I do try to answer emails in a timely fashion, but I limit Facebook to half hour sessions, confess that I don’t see the use of Twitter, but do use it to post when poems are online or if I have an event, and haven’t figured out Instagram yet. . . .  The good part about all of this (the Digital Revolution) is that I can easily share work, especially work that has appeared in print-only journals, with larger audiences. I maintain my own website (www.barbaracrooker.com), posting a new poem every month, plus links to poems published online. The downside of it is that I’d need to be cloned to really be able to be a big presence on social media. But I feel my real job is just to write poems, so I’m working as hard as I can to keep the rest of the “stuff” to a minimum.  
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Q & A with Poet Barbara Crooker on the Magic of VCCA, Reading, and Some Glad Morning, Madam Mayo blog, December 23, 2019

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NANCY PEACOCK: My biggest experience with the digital revolution has been with Facebook. After much cajoling from an agent and the culture, I finally opened a Facebook account. That’s what we’re supposed to do, as writers, right? We’re supposed to promote our work every possible way. I was surprised to find things that mattered to me on Facebook, and then, as those things dwindled, I became addicted to searching for them. In the end, my mind became fractured, and I was unable to focus on what I needed to focus on: the writing. I deleted my FB account. I did not disable it. I deleted it, and I feel my mind healing. It was like coming off a drug…. For me it really came down to either being a writer or presenting as a writer. I chose the former.
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From Q & A: Nancy Peacock, Author of The Life and Times of Persimmon Wilson, Madam Mayo blog, March 26, 2018

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BRUCE BERGER: I write the same way I did when I began, which is on a yellow legal pad in longhand with a Ticonderoga hardness of 3 pencil, which I transcribe to my laptop, then print for corrections. While I keep up with email and google for info, I don’t participate in social media or text. For the record, I identify as a retro analoggerhead Luddite retard from the Silent Generation.
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From Q & A with Bruce Berger on A Desert Harvest, Madam Mayo blog, November 25, 2019

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SERGIO TRONCOSO: I think you have to be relentless about getting the word out about your books and appearances on social media, you have to accept this ‘fast world’ as our world now, even though sometimes I hate it, and you have to do your best not to lose yourself in the posting and re-posting and stupid arguments that too often occur digitally. I do it, then I go back to my work. So I feel a bit schizophrenic sometimes, but I do relish the moment when I turn everything off and lose myself in my work or on a particularly thorny issue of craft. I think you almost have to have a ‘segmented mind,’ that is, learn to function in the realms of social media effectively. But then also learn to take all of this digital frenzy somewhat skeptically. The most basic way it’s affected my writing is that now I write about it, in dystopian stories about where I think our country might be headed, with people too quick to judge superficially, so enamored with images, so lost in our digital world that the real world becomes an aside. 
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From Q & A with Sergio Troncoso, Author of A Peculiar Kind of Immigrant’s Son, October 28, 2019

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ERIC BARNES: My advice is to turn it all off when you write. Phone. Email. Everything. I write on a computer, but have to be sure all the alerts and notifications are off. Not just emails and the Web, but even alerts about software updates and battery life. Everything. Even the word processor I use, I have it set up so all the toolbars and menus and everything else is hidden. I just want a blank white page on which I can type. 

Otherwise, the distractions are deadly.
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From Q & A with Eric Barnes on Above the Ether and Turning It All Off, Madam Mayo blog, July 22, 2019

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JOSEPH HUTCHISON: I don’t have a writing routine, but when a poem does rear its Hyacinthine head, I become obsessive—preoccupied, distracted—and I pretty much stop answering emails. I have my blog set up so that my posts automatically flow through to a few social media sites, but I don’t generally visit those sites myself, even less so now that I’ve turned off notifications. Unfortunately, I follow numerous sites for political and poetical news, so that when a poem’s finished, I have to wade through days of unread articles. Overall, I’d say that I don’t feel much of a stake in social media, which is generally antisocial and trivializing. I don’t consider it a writerly medium.
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From Q & A: Joseph Hutchison, Poet Laureate of Colorado, on The World As Is, April 22, 2019


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MARY MACKEY: I’ve been using computers since the early 80’s, so the Digital Revolution did not come as a surprise. It hasn’t affected my writing, but, like all writers these days, I have to spend time on social media that I would have otherwise spent writing, so I ration my online time carefully. To write poetry, to create anything, you need long periods of silence and intense concentration. You need to be able to hear your inner voice. You can’t do this if you are always checking your phone. My solution is rigorous compartmentalization. I set aside times to write and times to do social media.
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From Q & A: Mary Mackey on The Jaguars That Prowl Our Dreams, Madam Mayo blog, November 18, 2018

What works and doesn’t work for you?

My own sense is that accomplishing anything in this midst of the digital revolution requires clarity of one’s intentions, as well as self-awareness and self-honesty when it comes to assessing one’s own strengths and weaknesses, and time constraints. Hence, everyone’s answer will differ. But we are all struggling with something tremendous.

Much more on this subject anon.

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Q & A: Eric Barnes on “Above the Ether” and Turning It All Off

This blog posts on Mondays. Fourth Mondays of the month I devote to a Q & A with a fellow writer.

Eric Barnes. (Photo is a screenshot from YouTube of Eric Barnes’ interview about his new novel on WREG Channel 3. )

It was about a decade ago that I first came across Eric Barnes‘ work, when we both had novels with Unbridled Books– his was a dark comedy about high tech, Shimmer. Now I am delighted to learn about his latest, just out from Arcade Publishing: Above the Ether. It promises to be an exceptionally good read. Booklist says: “Barnes’ spare and chilling prose flows from one horrific scene to another without, surprisingly, alienating his readers, perhaps because the heart of his narrative ultimately reveals an abiding faith in the power of human compassion. A first-rate apocalyptic page-turner.”

In addition to penning four highly regarded novels, Barnes is CEO of The Daily Memphian, The Daily News, The Nashville Ledger, The Knoxville Ledger, and The Hamilton County Herald, and host of Behind the Headlines on WKNO TV. Visit his website to read more.

From the catalog copy:

A mesmerizing novel of unfolding dystopia amid the effects of climate change in a world very like our own, for readers of Emily St. John Mandel’s Station Eleven and Margaret Atwood’s The Year of the Flood.

In this prequel to Eric Barnes’s acclaimed novel The City Where We Once Lived, six sets of characters move through a landscape and a country just beginning to show the signs of cataclysmic change. A father and his young children fleeing a tsunami after a massive earthquake in the Gulf. A woman and her husband punishing themselves without relent for the loss of both their sons to addiction, while wildfires slowly burn closer to their family home. A brilliant investor, assessing opportunity in the risk to crops, homes, cities, industries, and infrastructure, working in the silent comfort of her office sixty floors up in the scorching air. A doctor and his wife stuck in a refugee camp for immigrants somewhere in a southern desert. Two young men working the rides for a roadside carnival, one escaping a brutal past, the other a racist present. The manager of a chain of nondescript fast-food restaurants in a city ravaged by the relentless wind.

While every night the news alternates images of tsunami destruction with the baseball scores, the characters converge on a city where the forces of change have already broken—a city half abandoned, with one part left to be scavenged as the levee system protecting it slowly fails—until, in their vehicles on the highway that runs through it, they witness the approach of what looks to be just one more violent storm.
––Catalog copy for Above the Ether by Eric Barnes

C.M. MAYO: What inspired you do write Above the Ether

ERIC BARNES: Above the Ether is the prequel to my previous novel, The City Where We Once Lived, but I wrote them out of order. In fact, the plots of the two books essentially happen simultaneously. But I didn’t have the idea for Above the Ether until I’d finished City. 

The City Where We Once Lived is about a city that’s been abandoned and the few thousand people who have chose to live there. The city in that novel has been devastated not by a plague or some virus, but by bad decisions, inattention, abandonment. All animals have fled, all the plants and trees have died. 

The main character in City assumes that everyone, everywhere lives with this sort of death of plants and animals. But toward the end of the novel, a new person comes to the city. And, very off-handedly, he tells the main character why he’s fled his home and come to this city. 

The animals that left this place, they didn’t all just die. They went to other places. Like the city we are from. Huge packs of dogs. Feral cats. The failed efforts of the city to wipe them out with poison, so many dead animals that they had to leave carcasses in piles on corners and overflowing from dumpsters and still the animals roamed the street.

“What you have in rain,” the man’s friend is now saying, “others have in heat and drought. Rivers turned to creeks or dried up completely. Lakes emptied of water, now dead valleys or dry plains. Uncontrollable fires and not just in the forests. Whole neighborhoods destroyed on the edges of big cities. Hillsides that should have never been occupied, even before the drought began, finally the fires could not be stopped, so that now those hillside neighborhoods are turned black and white, burned flat to the ground, they look like the landscape of some moon.”

And so I started Above the Ether with that idea. 

In neither City nor Above the Ether did I want to write a novel about a plague or virus wiping out humanity. I didn’t want to write about an apocalypse, though both books do feel apocalyptic.

Instead, I wanted to take mostly real, actual events and phenomenon and push them just slightly. In other words, what if Detroit had actually failed a decade ago? What if New Orleans never recovered from Katrina? What if the flooding in Thailand or Japan had happened in a country that felt the US? What if all the slow-motion environmental and societal problems – and disasters – that happen over years or decades were instead pressed together into one novel? 

So the novels are very much fiction. But they are based mostly on things that have very clearly already happened.

C.M. MAYO: If a reader were to take away one sentence (or two or three) from this novel, which would you suggest, and why?

ERIC BARNES: I think it would be this passage:

A theater, nearly two hundred years old, is easily torn down. Rotted anyway. From the rainfall that poured for so many years through the gilded dome of a towering ceiling.

The musicians who had played there, the actors and actresses who once performed, the speeches long ago delivered, poetry read aloud, movies played. Funds were raised; during the war the stage was lined with beds.

Now gone.

Memories offer no protection. They are only a series of moments that happened in the past.

Above the Ether is very much about how people abuse and abandon places. Cities particularly, but places – such as theaters – within those cities or rural towns. Farmland. We abandon these places. It’s not about plagues and viruses. It’s about choices.

C.M. MAYO: Can you talk about which writers have been the most important influences for you?

ERIC BARNES: These days, I think the most influential writers on what I’m writing are some combination of Kurt Vonnegut, Cormac McCarthy and Annie Dillard. There are many others. But those are the ones I think of most often. 

Vonnegut and his ability to bridge genres – from literary fiction to science-fiction to genres of his own creation – as well as mixing fictional and non-fictional elements so incredibly.

McCarthy’s Blood Meridian changed my whole perspective on reading and writing. The beauty of the writing, the unapologetic violence of the characters, the structure of the novel. It was otherworldly for me, in so many ways.

For the Time Being by Annie Dillard was another book that changed my whole sense of what could be written. The way she shifts time and moves through characters and combines narrative and poetic elements – all without being self-conscious or pretentious – was just amazing. 

Then there were the short stories of Raymond Carver and Richard Ford, mostly because they wrote about the kind of people I knew growing up. In my early 20s, all I wanted to do was forget so many of the people I’d been around as a child. But the Carver and Ford short stories made me realize that actually what I wanted – and needed – to do was write about the people I knew growing up.

C.M. MAYO: Which writers are you reading now?

ERIC BARNES: I tend to read a lot of non-fiction, actually, especially narrative non-fiction about scientific issues. So I love David Quammen’s books about island bio-geography and the history of the discovery of evolution are fascinating to me. 

C.M. MAYO: Your day job is news. Is this something you find helpful or challenging (or both) for you as a novelist?

ERIC BARNES: Helpful, mostly. The assimilation of so much information in a mostly objective way – that’s what I was after with Above the Ether. Honestly, although I didn’t intend to do this at the outset, much of Above the Ether is written in a non-fiction narrative style. 

C.M. MAYO: You have been a productive creative writer for many years. How has the Digital Revolution affected your writing? Specifically, has it become more challenging to stay focused with the siren calls of email, texting, blogs, online newspapers and magazines, social media, and such? If so, do you have some tips and tricks you might be able to share?

ERIC BARNES: My advice is to turn it all off when you write. Phone. Email. Everything. I write on a computer, but have to be sure all the alerts and notifications are off. Not just emails and the Web, but even alerts about software updates and battery life. Everything. Even the word processor I use, I have it set up so all the toolbars and menus and everything else is hidden. I just want a blank white page on which I can type. 

Otherwise, the distractions are deadly.

“My advice is to turn it all off when you write.
Phone. Email. Everything.”

C.M. MAYO: Another question apropos of the Digital Revolution. At what point, if any, were you working on paper? Was working on paper necessary for you, or problematic?

ERIC BARNES: Early on, I wrote my first short stories on paper. But very soon I switched to writing on a computer – this big, clunky machine that weight 30 pounds and that I’d gotten from my mom’s office. 

However, then and now, I constantly print out the pages I’ve written and read them on paper, editing them with a pencil. I edit that way almost exclusively. (On the computer, I edit only lightly.) So that means that, on the printed pages, I’m adding words, sentences, whole sections – most of which is written in the margins, but some of which I write on the back sides of printed pages. I even re-order whole chapters on paper (using a crazy-to-anyone-else numbering system I’ve used for years). This means that after a week or two of handwriting my edits, I’ll have many, many pages that I then have to re-type into the computer. But even that is a new chance to read and re-read what I’ve written (and re-written).

I will also often take the printed pages and lay them out side by side on a table or the floor. I like to look at and read whole chapters that way – 15 to 20 pages all laying side by side.

C.M. MAYO: If you could go back in time and give your 30 year-old self some writerly advice, what would be the standout piece?

ERIC BARNES: Wow. So many things. Most of which can’t (or shouldn’t) be shared publicly because they involve the business side of publishing. 

One thing I will say: I’ve had six agents in my life. That’s way, way too many. A couple of them – my current agent very much topping the list – have been great. The others were awful. Not truthful, not transparent, no integrity. My 30-year-old self was far too happy just to have an agent. I should have been much more demanding of them and careful in who I trusted.

I will also say that at 30 years old, I’d finished three novels, but none had been published. It was maddening. But I kept at it. And I kept editing and re-writing. And, in some cases, I gave up on work I’d spent years writing. Which was necessary. 

C.M. MAYO: What’s next for you as a writer?

ERIC BARNES: I’m mid-way through another novel, roughly taking place in the same world as Above the Ether and The City Where We Once Lived. Some of it’s actually pretty good. Some of it is really in need of more work. 

But right now I’m focused on supporting Above the Ether. By the fall, I’ll be deep into that novel, trying to make it work the way it should.

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